The same returns in a different order, and one portfolio runs out

The short answer

With no money moving in or out, the order of returns is irrelevant, because the end value is a product and multiplication commutes. Take 164 consecutive monthly growth factors of the Nifty 50 from the data described below, run them forward and then run them backward, and both give exactly 4,042.41 units from a start of 1,000. Now withdraw a fixed 11 units every month. Forward, the portfolio pays all 164 withdrawals and still holds 210.23 units. Backward, it is exhausted in month 152 and the last 12 withdrawals cannot be paid. Across 50,000 shuffles of the identical returns, 44.33 per cent exhausted the portfolio. The units are abstract and the draw is illustrative. No rate is recommended anywhere on this page.

Everything below was computed from a real series held offline, and the method is stated so the whole thing can be redone. That matters more than usual on this topic, because it is one where confident numbers circulate freely and almost none of them come with the series they were measured on.

Multiplication commutes. A withdrawal does not.

Start with the case that has no risk of this kind at all. A portfolio of value V with no money going in or out, held across a run of periods with growth factors g, ends at V multiplied by every one of those factors. A product is the same whichever way you multiply it. There is no ordering of the factors that gives a different answer, and no approximation involved in saying so.

Now take a fixed amount W out at the end of each period. The end value is no longer a bare product. It is the starting value times the product of every factor, less the withdrawal times a second quantity: the sum, over every period, of the growth factors that come after that period. Call it S. The first term is order invariant. S is not, and S is the entire risk.

The reason is arithmetic rather than psychological. A withdrawal is a fixed number of units and the portfolio it comes from is not. Taking 11 units after a fall removes a larger share of what remains than taking 11 units after a rise, and the share removed is gone. The recovery, when it arrives, is applied to a permanently smaller base. The damage runs one way only, and no later return undoes it.

Two periods are enough to see it. Growth factors of 1.5 and 0.5 in either order, from 1,000 units. With no withdrawal both orders end at 750 units. With 100 units taken at the end of each period, the rise first gives 600 units and the fall first gives 500. The difference of 100 units is W multiplied by the gap in S, which is 2.5 against 1.5. Every result on the rest of this page is that same sum computed on real data.

The series, and exactly what it is

The data is 3,385 daily index closes for the Nifty 50, from 01 January 2013 to 18 September 2026, held offline in this repository. The index carried three successive names across that window and all three are the same series. Taking the first traded close of each month gives 165 anchor points and therefore 164 consecutive month-to-month growth factors, running from January 2013 to August 2026.

A factor above 1 means the index ended the month higher than it started, and a factor below 1 means lower. 67 of the 164 months are below 1. The weakest is March 2020 at 0.7414 and the strongest is April 2020 at 1.1260, which happen to be consecutive. Compounded end to end the whole series is a factor of 4.042414.

The 164 monthly factors grouped by calendar year, as a check that the parts reconcile to the whole. The 2026 row is a partial year. Measured, not illustrative.
YearMonthsCompounded factorEnded
2013121.0589higher
2014121.3146higher
2015120.9613lower
2016121.0272higher
2017121.2758higher
2018121.0455higher
2019121.1166higher
2020121.1507higher
2021121.2573higher
2022121.0324higher
2023121.1948higher
2024121.0920higher
2025121.1012higher
202680.9200lower

The portfolio convention for everything that follows is deliberately plain. It starts at 1,000 abstract units. Each month the factor is applied and then 11 units are withdrawn. There is no tax, no cost, no rebalancing and no second asset, because adding any of those would introduce assumptions that are not measured here and would blur the one thing being isolated.

That draw is large relative to the portfolio, and that is on purpose. The real data available is under fourteen years, and a small draw over a short window shows almost nothing. A large draw over a short window shows the same structure that a small draw shows over a long one. The level is chosen for visibility and is not a recommended rate. Nothing here suggests what anybody should withdraw.

Forward and reversed, on the same 164 numbers

The same 164 monthly returns, run forward and run backward, with a fixed withdrawal Two lines starting together at one thousand units. Both decline as a fixed withdrawal is taken every month. The forward line is still above two hundred units at month 164. The backward line reaches zero at month 152 and stays there. With no withdrawal at all the two runs would end at exactly the same value. One portfolio, 164 monthly factors, a fixed 11 unit draw Without the draw both runs end at 4,042 units. Exactly, not approximately. 03006009001,200 024487296120144164 exhausted, month 152 forward, ends at 210 units reversed, runs out 12 months early Months since the first withdrawal. Units are abstract and the draw is illustrative, not a recommended rate.
The whole mechanism in one picture. Identical returns, identical average, identical product. The only difference is the order in which they arrive, and it decides whether the last 12 withdrawals can be paid at all.

With the withdrawal switched off, the two runs end at 4,042.41 units each. Not approximately, and not to within rounding: this was computed in exact rational arithmetic from the published closes, so the two products are the same object. Turning the withdrawal on separates them completely.

Forward, the portfolio funds every one of the 164 withdrawals, paying out 1,804 units in total, and still holds 210.23 units at the end. Reversed, it funds 151 withdrawals, paying out 1,661 units, and then cannot fund the next one. It is exhausted in month 152, with 12 months of the window still to go.

The one term that changes

The algebra pins it down with no room for interpretation. The end value is the starting value times the product, less the withdrawal times S. The first term is 4,042.41 units for every ordering that exists. The second term is where the two runs differ.

The order term isolated. Four orderings of the identical 164 factors, with the order-invariant term shown alongside for contrast. Computed.
OrderingThe order term SStarting value times the productOutcome with the fixed draw
Forward, as it happened348.384,042.41210.23 units left after all 164 withdrawals
Reversed379.834,042.41exhausted in month 152 of 164
Best months first73.834,042.413,230.30 units left after all 164 withdrawals
Worst months first3,182.604,042.41exhausted in month 29 of 164

Forward, S is 348.380, so the withdrawals consume 3,832.18 units of the 4,042.41 the portfolio generates, leaving 210.23. Reversed, S is 379.832, so funding the same 164 withdrawals would require 4,178.16 units, which is 135.74 units more than the portfolio produces. In the real run that shortfall shows up as the value hitting zero in month 152.

The gap between the two values of S is 31.452. Multiplied by the 11 unit draw, that single number is worth 345.97 units, which is more than the forward run finishes with. Order is not a second order effect on this series. It is larger than the entire surviving balance.

The two extreme rows are bounds rather than scenarios. Best months first puts S at 73.829 and ends with 3,230.30 units. Worst months first puts it at 3,182.600 and exhausts the portfolio in month 29. Neither is a path any market would produce. They mark the arithmetic edges of what order alone can be worth.

What order alone is worth, across 50,000 shuffles

What order alone is worth, across fifty thousand shuffles of the same 164 returns Eleven bars showing the share of shuffled orderings ending in each band of units. The tallest bar by far is the leftmost, marked out, which is the share of orderings in which the portfolio was exhausted before the end. The remaining bars fall away steadily up to about two thousand units. Every one of these orderings contains exactly the same 164 returns and every one gives the identical result with no withdrawal. 50,000 shuffles of the identical 164 returns Per cent of orderings finishing in each band of units. Fixed seed, stated method. No-withdrawal result, all 50,000 of them: 4,042 units 44.311.312.111.09.26.23.71.60.50.10.0 out200400600800100012001400160018002000 Units remaining at month 164, in bands of 200. The first bar is exhaustion before month 164. 44.3 per cent of orderings ran out. Same returns, same average, same product.
Order alone, measured. Nothing varies across these 50,000 runs except the sequence. The spread from the worst survivor to the best is the part of the outcome that no average of the series can see.

The forward and reversed runs are two points. To see the whole distribution, the same 164 factors were shuffled 50,000 times with a fixed seed and the portfolio run through each ordering under identical rules. Every one of those runs contains exactly the same returns, has the same average, the same variability and the same compounded product, and every one of them ends at 4,042.41 units if the withdrawal is switched off.

Units remaining at month 164 across 50,000 shuffled orderings of the same 164 factors. Simulation on real returns, fixed seed 20260919. Illustrative of the structure, not a forecast of anything.
MeasureResult
Orderings exhausted before month 16444.33 per cent
Lowest quarter of surviving and failing runs, 25th percentile0.0 units
Median ordering100.8 units
75th percentile529.9 units
95th percentile1,034.9 units
Best of the 50,000 shuffles1,952.2 units
Forward ordering, for reference210.2 units
Every ordering, with no withdrawal4,042.41 units

44.33 per cent of orderings exhausted the portfolio. The median ordering finished with 100.8 units and the best with 1,952.2. That entire spread, from total failure to nearly twice the starting value, is produced by nothing except the sequence. The returns themselves were never varied, not once.

Early declines are the dangerous ones, and the gap is measurable

Moving one bad month, and nothing else A line that is flat along zero for the first sixty-one positions and then rises steadily. The single worst month of the series is moved to each position in turn while the other 163 months stay in their original relative order. Placed anywhere in the first sixty-one months the portfolio is exhausted. Placed last it finishes with more than five hundred units. One month moved, 163 months left exactly as they were Units left at month 164 when the worst month of the series sits at each position 0140280420560 124487296120144164 month 61 exhausted at or before here Position of the worst month, from first to last A decline arriving last costs the portfolio almost nothing. The identical decline arriving first ends it.
A single variable experiment. The set of returns, the withdrawal and the relative order of everything else are held fixed. Only the position of one month changes, and it moves the outcome from exhaustion to 519 units.

A shuffle changes everything at once, so it shows that order matters without showing which part of the order matters. The tighter experiment changes one thing. Take the real series, lift out the single weakest month, and put it back at each of the 164 positions in turn, leaving the other 163 months in their original relative order throughout.

The worst month of the series moved to each position, with everything else held in its original relative order. Computed on the real series.
Position of the worst monthOutcome at month 164
1exhausted in month 105
12exhausted in month 116
24exhausted in month 128
36exhausted in month 139
48exhausted in month 151
61exhausted in month 164
623.36 units left
7288.59 units left
96278.51 units left
120381.66 units left
144463.10 units left
164519.42 units left

Placed at any of the first 61 positions, that one month exhausts the portfolio. Placed at position 62 it survives, barely. Placed last it costs almost nothing and the portfolio finishes with 519.42 units. The identical decline is the difference between ruin and a comfortable finish, depending only on when it lands.

The cause is simple. A decline early is applied to a large balance and then compounded against by every withdrawal that follows, each a larger share of a smaller pool. A decline in the final month is applied once to a balance with almost no withdrawals left to fund. There is no time left for the loss to be multiplied by anything.

The shuffles say the same at scale. Sorting all 50,000 orderings by how their first two years went gives this.

The 50,000 shuffles split into four equal groups by the compounded factor of their first 24 months. Fixed seed 20260919.
GroupCompounded factor of months 1 to 24Median units at month 164Share exhausted
Quarter 10.512 to 1.0730.0 units84.5 per cent
Quarter 21.073 to 1.2410.0 units52.5 per cent
Quarter 31.241 to 1.424284.6 units29.2 per cent
Quarter 41.424 to 2.680635.5 units11.1 per cent

The weakest opening group exhausted 84.5 per cent of the time and the strongest 11.1 per cent, on returns drawn from the identical pool. There is a subtlety worth naming: because the set of returns is fixed, a group with a weak opening must be holding the stronger returns for later, and it still fails more often. The later strength cannot repair what the early weakness did, which is the whole point.

No average can see any of this

This is the part that makes the risk genuinely difficult rather than merely unpleasant. Consider the summary statistics of these 164 factors. The arithmetic mean is 1.009622. The standard deviation is 0.045609. The compounded factor across the window is 4.042414, which is a per month geometric factor of 1.008554. 67 months of 164 are below 1.

Every one of those figures is identical for all 164 factorial orderings. The orderings that exhaust the portfolio and the orderings that finish with 1,952 units share the same mean, the same standard deviation, the same product, the same worst month, the same best month and the same count of falling months. They are the same set of numbers.

So an analysis built on an average return cannot see this risk. Not because it is crude, but because the quantity it rests on does not contain the information. The same holds for anything built on a compound growth figure alone, or on a mean and a variance. Reporting a range around an average does not repair it either, because that is a range of averages. This is not noise around a central case. It is a different quantity.

This is the same class of error as reading a single historical maximum drawdown as though it were a property of a strategy rather than a statistic of one sample path. In both cases a number that looks like a description of the thing is in fact a description of one ordering of it.

What a cash buffer actually does, measured

The standard remedy is a buffer: hold some period of spending in cash so withdrawals need not be funded from a depressed portfolio. The mechanism is sound in principle. Funding a withdrawal from cash while the portfolio is down means the units leave the portfolio later, at a higher value, so fewer units leave in total for the same spending.

So it was measured. A cash sleeve was carved out of the same starting 1,000 units, earning nothing, drawn on in any month the portfolio sat below its running peak and refilled from the portfolio at a new peak. Carving it out of the same total is the fair test: comparing a larger pile of money against a smaller one would measure the extra money rather than the timing.

Five rules run across the same 50,000 shuffled orderings, fixed seed 20260919. Units withdrawn is the average across runs. Simulation on real returns, illustrative of the mechanism only.
RuleShare exhaustedMedian units at month 164Average units withdrawn
No buffer, fixed draw44.33 per cent100.81,621
Cash sleeve of 6 months of draw44.93 per cent86.51,621
Cash sleeve of 12 months of draw47.06 per cent45.61,618
Draw cut by a fifth below 0.90 of the peak10.58 per cent679.51,505
Draw cut by three tenths below 0.90 of the peak2.51 per cent908.21,409

The sleeve did not work, and the measurement is worth stating plainly rather than softening. On the reversed ordering a twelve month sleeve delayed exhaustion from month 152 to month 161, and on the forward ordering it reduced the finish from 210.23 units to 142.48. Across the shuffles it raised the share of exhausted orderings from 44.33 per cent to 47.06 per cent.

The arithmetic of why is not mysterious. A sleeve changes when a unit leaves the growing pool. It does not change how many units leave, and the total leaving is unchanged at 1,621 units on average. Meanwhile the sleeve sits outside the compounding for the whole window. The timing benefit is real but conditional: it pays only if the fall the sleeve covered is recovered inside the horizon. When it is not, the sleeve has parked capital where it could not grow. On this series, at this draw, the parking cost more than the timing saved.

What did change the outcome was taking less. Cutting the monthly draw by a fifth in any month the portfolio sat below nine tenths of its own running peak turned the reversed ordering from exhaustion in month 152 into a finish of 615.94 units, and lifted the forward ordering from 210.23 to 778.81. Across the shuffles it cut exhaustion from 44.33 per cent to 10.58 per cent, and a three tenths cut brought it to 2.51 per cent.

That is not free and should not be described as one. The average total withdrawn fell from about 1,621 units to about 1,505 under the one fifth cut and about 1,409 under the three tenths cut. The portfolio survived because less came out of it. A cut works harder than a sleeve because it attacks S directly, lowering the withdrawal precisely in the periods where the withdrawal is the largest share of the pool, which are exactly the periods that dominate the sum.

Read together, the two measurements give the buffer a different job from the one usually described. It is not a substitute for reducing the draw. Its value is that it makes the reduction survivable, by supplying spending that does not require selling into a fall in the month somebody discovers they must cut. That is a liquidity and behaviour argument, and a good one. It is not the arithmetic argument, and on this series the arithmetic argument did not hold.

The same arithmetic, mirrored, for somebody still adding

The same bad month, for someone drawing money out and for someone putting money in Two panels side by side. On the left, for a portfolio paying out a fixed amount every month, moving the worst month later raises the ending value. On the right, for a portfolio receiving a fixed amount every month, moving the same worst month later lowers the ending value. The two curves are mirror images because the arithmetic term that carries the order is identical in both and only its sign differs. One term, two signs. The same order is good for one of these people and bad for the other. Taking 11 units out every month units left at month 164, scale 0 to 560 Adding 11 units in every month units held at month 164, scale 7,400 to 8,900 first last first last Position of the worst month of the series, in both panels Accumulation and withdrawal are opposite problems. Guidance written for one is wrong for the other.
Why advice does not transfer. An early decline is the single worst thing that can happen to a portfolio paying money out, and the single best thing that can happen to one taking money in. Both panels are the identical series and the identical arithmetic.

Most writing on this subject stops at the retiree. That leaves out the half of the result that catches people out, because the same term governs the accumulation case with its sign reversed.

Add a fixed contribution C each period instead of withdrawing. The end value is the starting value times the product plus C times S, and it is the identical S. So the ordering that minimises S and therefore maximises the end value for somebody drawing money out is precisely the ordering that minimises the end value for somebody putting money in.

The same four orderings of the same 164 factors, for a portfolio paying 11 units out each month and for one taking 11 units in. Computed.
OrderingThe order term SPaying 11 units outTaking 11 units in
Forward348.38210 units left7,875 units
Reversed379.83exhausted, month 1528,221 units
Best months first73.833,230 units left4,855 units
Worst months first3,182.60exhausted, month 2939,051 units

Read the last two columns against each other. The reversed ordering exhausts the withdrawing portfolio in month 152 and leaves the contributing one with 8,221 units, which is more than the forward ordering gives it. Worst months first is catastrophic for the withdrawer, failing in month 29, and is the best of all four for the contributor at 39,051 units. Moving the single worst month of the series to the front gives the contributor the highest end value of any of the 164 positions and the withdrawer the worst.

The consequence is practical. A long decline early in a saving life is favourable, because contributions buy in at lower values and the recovery applies to a larger holding. The identical decline early in a drawing life is the worst thing that can happen. Guidance written for the first case, including the familiar encouragement to welcome a fall while you are still buying, is not merely less useful in the second case. It is inverted. The arithmetic of paying in over time rather than at once and the arithmetic of drawing down are the same equation with opposite signs, and no amount of rewording makes advice from one apply to the other.

What this measurement is, and what it is not

It is one index across one window of under fourteen years, and that window held far more rising months than falling ones. It contains one severe monthly fall and its immediate recovery. A different series or a different window would give different magnitudes, and a more turbulent one would show a wider spread rather than a narrower one, because the spread is driven by the dispersion of the factors being ordered.

What does not depend on the window is the structure. The end value with a fixed cash flow is the order-invariant product term plus or minus the cash flow times an order-dependent sum. That is exact for every series that has ever existed and every one that ever will. The measurement here puts a size on the second term using real returns instead of invented ones, and the size turned out to be larger than the surviving balance.

Nothing on this page is a projection, a recommendation or a plan. No return is stated, no withdrawal rate is suggested, and the units are abstract precisely so that no figure here can be mistaken for an income. Anybody who actually has to fund spending from a portfolio has a specific situation involving tax, other income, health, dependants, horizon and temperament, none of which this arithmetic knows about, and should take advice from somebody qualified who does.

What the arithmetic does give is a better question to ask of any analysis put in front of you. Not what return it assumes, but whether the quantity it rests on can see order at all. If the answer rests on an average, a compound growth figure, or a mean and a variance, then by construction it cannot, and the 44.33 per cent of orderings above are invisible to it. Working out which questions a method is structurally incapable of answering is the part of this that is worth learning, and it generalises well past this one topic. It is the same discipline as choosing the right null to test against.

Frequently asked questions

What is sequence of returns risk, stated exactly?

It is the fact that the end value of a portfolio with cash flowing in or out depends on the order in which its returns arrive, even when the set of returns is held completely fixed. With no cash flow the end value is the starting value multiplied by every growth factor, and multiplication does not care about order, so every ordering gives the identical answer. Add a fixed withdrawal and the end value becomes the starting value times the product, less the withdrawal times a sum of partial products. That second term is not order invariant, and it is the entire risk.

Why does a withdrawal after a decline hurt more than the same withdrawal after a rise?

Because the withdrawal is a fixed number of units and the portfolio is not. Taking a fixed amount from a portfolio that has just fallen removes a larger fraction of what is left, and the fraction removed never participates in any later recovery. The recovery when it arrives is applied to a permanently smaller base. Nothing about the later returns can undo it, which is why the damage is one directional.

How large is the effect you measured?

On 164 consecutive monthly growth factors of the Nifty 50 from the data described in the sources, with a portfolio of 1,000 abstract units and a fixed draw of 11 units a month, the forward ordering finished with 210 units and the reversed ordering was exhausted in month 152 of 164. With no withdrawal both orderings finish at 4,042.41 units, and that identity is exact rather than approximate because it was computed in exact rational arithmetic. Across 50,000 random shuffles of the same returns, 44.3 per cent of orderings exhausted the portfolio.

Is the withdrawal level on this page a recommendation?

No. It is deliberately large relative to the portfolio, because the window of real data available is under fourteen years and a large draw is what makes the arithmetic visible inside a window that short. A smaller draw over a longer horizon produces the same structure. Nothing on this page recommends a withdrawal level, a rate, an asset mix or a plan, and the correct level for any individual depends on circumstances this page knows nothing about.

Why can an average return not capture this?

Because every summary statistic of a set of returns is order invariant. The arithmetic mean of these 164 factors is 1.009622, the standard deviation is 0.045609, the compounded factor for the whole window is 4.042414 and 67 of the 164 months are below one. Every single one of those numbers is identical for all 164 factorial orderings, including the orderings that exhaust the portfolio and the orderings that end with nearly two thousand units. An analysis built on any of them cannot distinguish the cases, because the numbers it is built from do not distinguish them.

Does holding a cash buffer solve it?

Not on its own, and the measurement is less flattering than most descriptions of the idea. A cash sleeve funded out of the same starting capital, drawn on while the portfolio sits below its running peak and refilled at a new peak, delayed exhaustion on the reversed ordering from month 152 to month 161, and across 50,000 shuffles it raised the share of orderings that exhausted from 44.33 per cent to 47.06 per cent. A sleeve buys months rather than survival, because it does not change how many units are withdrawn in total and it parks capital where it does not compound.

What did change the outcome in your measurement?

Taking less after a decline. Reducing the monthly draw by a fifth in any month the portfolio sat below nine tenths of its own running peak turned the reversed ordering from exhaustion in month 152 into a finish of 616 units, and across the shuffles it cut the share of exhausted orderings from 44.33 per cent to 10.58 per cent. It is not free. The average total withdrawn across those runs fell from about 1,621 units to about 1,505. The portfolio survived because less was taken out of it, which is the honest description of the mechanism.

Does the same risk apply while I am still saving?

It applies in reverse, which is the part most general writing on the subject leaves out. With contributions instead of withdrawals the end value is the starting value times the product plus the contribution times the identical sum of partial products. Only the sign differs. So the ordering that is worst for somebody drawing money out is best for somebody putting money in. On this series, placing the worst month first gave the contributor the highest end value of any position and the person drawing income the worst. Advice built for accumulation does not transfer to withdrawal, and repeating it there is an error rather than a simplification.

Why is the reversed ordering a fair comparison when markets never run backwards?

Because it is not being offered as a market forecast. It is a controlled experiment in which the set of returns, their number, their average, their variability and their compounded product are all held exactly fixed, and the single thing that changes is the order. That is what isolates order as the cause. The shuffle study serves the same purpose on a larger scale, and the single month experiment is the tightest version of it, holding even the relative order of the other 163 months constant.

What is this measurement not able to tell me?

It is one index over one window of under fourteen years, and that window contained far more rising months than falling ones. It says nothing about what any market will do next, nothing about what any individual should hold, and nothing about how much anybody can safely draw. It establishes one structural fact, which is that a fixed cash flow makes order matter, and it quantifies how much order was worth on a real series. Applying it to your own circumstances is a question for a qualified adviser who knows those circumstances.

How to reproduce this. Build the 164 monthly growth factors from the first traded close of each month in the stated window. The exchange's archive holds no file for 2015-02-02 and 2015-12-01, each the first session of its month, so those months are measured from their second session; the weekend special sessions of 2020-02-01, 2025-02-01 and 2026-02-01 are real sessions and open their months. The no-withdrawal end value is 1,000 times their product, which is 4,042.41 units for every ordering. The end value with a fixed draw is that figure less 11 times S, where S is the sum over every month of the product of the factors that come after it. S is 348.380 forward and 379.832 reversed. For the shuffle figures, permute the factors 50,000 times from seed 20260919 and run the same rules. Every number on the page follows from that description.

Illustrative figures, and no advice. All portfolio figures on this page are in abstract units and are illustrative of the arithmetic. The withdrawal level was chosen so the mechanism is visible inside a window of real data shorter than fourteen years and is not a recommended rate. No return, income or withdrawal rate is stated, projected or recommended anywhere here, and past index behaviour is not a guide to future behaviour. This is educational material about portfolio arithmetic and is not personal financial advice. Anybody funding spending from a portfolio should take advice on their own circumstances from a qualified adviser. Position stated as at 19 September 2026.

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